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MEGIDDO



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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drterror666 wrote:
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These songs also contributed to the birth of the Heavy Extreme, as did the first albums of Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Motörhead, but also the first Scorpions, Schenker and Roth eras, Gillan (listen to '78 " Secrets of the dance "by Gillan: a true proto-thrash gem.)


What, Dave Lee Roth? Heavy Extreme? Seriously!!! I'd also argue that Priest's early stuff was not yet Heavy Metal as defined by the template they'd later lay down.


great joke ! good one ! Very Happy

That was not a joke for sure... The new Doc is more into crossover than real classic Hard Rock and Heavy Metal. Wink


I know , it was a joke as well. Just second degree Cool

Anyway , Priest was really heavy at the time . We must evaluate the stuff in the context of the '70s.
Just one year before Overkill, the double bass drum of Simon Phillips on "Call For the Priest " was not as usual as nowadays.
1981 was NOT the Zero year of Heavy nor Extreme music . Difficult for us to imagine the massive impact of the very first album of Black Sabbath , but it surely was .
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not going to mistake the great Uli John Roth with that egotistical Van Halen reject. I was born in 69, you know! I love all kinds of Heavy Rock / Metal and was there as the NWOBHM exploded.

I think I'm getting what MEGIDDO is saying now. Before Led Zep, there wasn't really anything that we'd call heavy. Led Zep were the first band to take Blues and turn it up to 11. I've always maintained that, for me, Communication Breakdown is the first song that ever showed part of the template for what would become Heavy Metal. Because Tony Iommi couldn't play proper Blues riffs, because he'd lost two fingertips, he created new guitar riffs with Black Sabbath that transcended Heavy Rock, unconsciously building on Led Zep's template. Truly amazing stuff. It just gets heavier from then on and I agree that people don't appreciate this early sound in context.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drterror666 wrote:
I am not going to mistake the great Uli John Roth with that egotistical Van Halen reject. I was born in 69, you know! I love all kinds of Heavy Rock / Metal and was there as the NWOBHM exploded.

I'm a 69er too and love all kinds of Heavy Rock / Metal and was there as the NWOBHM exploded too. The only thing we have not in common is your british humor. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ramon1969 wrote:
drterror666 wrote:
I am not going to mistake the great Uli John Roth with that egotistical Van Halen reject. I was born in 69, you know! I love all kinds of Heavy Rock / Metal and was there as the NWOBHM exploded.

I'm a 69er too and love all kinds of Heavy Rock / Metal and was there as the NWOBHM exploded too. The only thing we have not in common is your british humor. Laughing


I'm sure your Swiss brand of humour is as unique as ours Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ramon1969 wrote:
drterror666 wrote:
I am not going to mistake the great Uli John Roth with that egotistical Van Halen reject. I was born in 69, you know! I love all kinds of Heavy Rock / Metal and was there as the NWOBHM exploded.

I'm a 69er too and love all kinds of Heavy Rock / Metal and was there as the NWOBHM exploded too. The only thing we have not in common is your british humor. Laughing


I'm sure your Swiss brand of humour is as unique as ours Smile

Ohh yes, indeed. The Swiss brand of Humor is nearly impossible to understand for people who do not come from switzerland or live here. Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ramon1969 wrote:
drterror666 wrote:
Ramon1969 wrote:
drterror666 wrote:
I am not going to mistake the great Uli John Roth with that egotistical Van Halen reject. I was born in 69, you know! I love all kinds of Heavy Rock / Metal and was there as the NWOBHM exploded.

I'm a 69er too and love all kinds of Heavy Rock / Metal and was there as the NWOBHM exploded too. The only thing we have not in common is your british humor. Laughing


I'm sure your Swiss brand of humour is as unique as ours Smile

Ohh yes, indeed. The Swiss brand of Humor is nearly impossible to understand for people who do not come from switzerland or live here. Wink Laughing


Well, if Tom is anything to go by, your humour is very dry, sarcastic and self-deprecating.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drterror666 wrote:
Ramon1969 wrote:
drterror666 wrote:
Ramon1969 wrote:
drterror666 wrote:
I am not going to mistake the great Uli John Roth with that egotistical Van Halen reject. I was born in 69, you know! I love all kinds of Heavy Rock / Metal and was there as the NWOBHM exploded.

I'm a 69er too and love all kinds of Heavy Rock / Metal and was there as the NWOBHM exploded too. The only thing we have not in common is your british humor. Laughing


I'm sure your Swiss brand of humour is as unique as ours Smile

Ohh yes, indeed. The Swiss brand of Humor is nearly impossible to understand for people who do not come from switzerland or live here. Wink Laughing


Well, if Tom is anything to go by, your humour is very dry, sarcastic and self-deprecating.

This form of humor unfortunately does not apply to most Swiss...
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